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We know about smashing the patriarchy – but what about envisioning something new? Maureen Devine-Ahl answers that big question in her new book, How to Make the Matriarchy. Join Maureen and Catherine for a visionary conversation about power, gender, and how to create a future built around inclusivity. Get Maureen’s book at https://amzn.to/3pDGLxO.
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